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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: Rethinking Human Nature</title>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and thanks for joining the conversation.  If you want to suggest any good reads, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks for joining the conversation.  If you want to suggest any good reads, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark  This sort of view does have the potential for engagement with current scientific discussions, especially given the ever-merging world of cognitive science and religious studies.  Theologians definitely cannot ignore these discussions since they offer significant and real challenges to traditional Christian doctrine or at least traditional expressions of that doctrine.  The question is, what form will these discussions take (I think Corcoran is a foreshadow of what is to come) and who will take the lead in addressing them. 

Like @Garver, I agree that there is both a biblical and philosophical dimension that is not entirely satisfied.  I think it can be if explored.  The shift from the categories and vocabulary of an ancient world to that of our quickly changing, scientific world, creates a large communication gap.  And given how fast this world changes (like a car flooring it at a green light, leaving behind the station wagon behind it) this gap will only grow greater.  I wonder what this will do for a theologian&#039;s ability to communicate.  Of course, it is not necessarily just a make it up as you go kind of thing, but I&#039;m thinking more about theological expression that speaks out of contexts, much like the discussions of Christian theology as done in the Global South versus traditional North American contexts.  What does it do for causing us to re-engage a topic at new angles?  

For that subject, I&#039;ll be putting up a review of Polkinghorne&#039;s Theology in the Context of Science soon.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark  This sort of view does have the potential for engagement with current scientific discussions, especially given the ever-merging world of cognitive science and religious studies.  Theologians definitely cannot ignore these discussions since they offer significant and real challenges to traditional Christian doctrine or at least traditional expressions of that doctrine.  The question is, what form will these discussions take (I think Corcoran is a foreshadow of what is to come) and who will take the lead in addressing them. </p>
<p>Like @Garver, I agree that there is both a biblical and philosophical dimension that is not entirely satisfied.  I think it can be if explored.  The shift from the categories and vocabulary of an ancient world to that of our quickly changing, scientific world, creates a large communication gap.  And given how fast this world changes (like a car flooring it at a green light, leaving behind the station wagon behind it) this gap will only grow greater.  I wonder what this will do for a theologian&#8217;s ability to communicate.  Of course, it is not necessarily just a make it up as you go kind of thing, but I&#8217;m thinking more about theological expression that speaks out of contexts, much like the discussions of Christian theology as done in the Global South versus traditional North American contexts.  What does it do for causing us to re-engage a topic at new angles?  </p>
<p>For that subject, I&#8217;ll be putting up a review of Polkinghorne&#8217;s Theology in the Context of Science soon.  <img src='http://www.discardedimage.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: garver</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a traducian Thomist of sorts, I wasn&#039;t convinced by Corcoran&#039;s argument, but it&#039;s a great read nonetheless -- clear, concise, carefully argued in most instances.  The excursus on embryonic development and stem-cells was very helpful, and I appreciated his emphasis upon the irreducibly social character of human identity.

My main sticking points are philosophical and biblical.  It seems to me that Aquinas&#039; view actually takes up philosophical categories in a way that enables him to strike the biblical balance well: affirming an intermediate state apart from the body, but seeing this as a diminished state of existence, a naked seed of a person, better in some respects than the present life, but also falling far short of resurrected, embodied glory.

On the whole I find the difficulties remaining with such a Thomistic approach more palatable and less philosophically problematic than the new set of problems generated by Corcoran&#039;s approach -- though, I&#039;d also suggest that Corcoran&#039;s view is fundamentally Thomist in character, maintaining a distinction between a person and her body that amounts to a distinction between form and matter, recognizing &quot;form&quot; as dynamic, relational, and goal-directed.

Still, Corcoran provides a plausible alternative way of thinking about the contours of such a distinction, in connection with the human person.  Whether or not one agrees with his account in the end, it&#039;s an account that helpfully forces one sharpen one&#039;s own viewpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a traducian Thomist of sorts, I wasn&#8217;t convinced by Corcoran&#8217;s argument, but it&#8217;s a great read nonetheless &#8212; clear, concise, carefully argued in most instances.  The excursus on embryonic development and stem-cells was very helpful, and I appreciated his emphasis upon the irreducibly social character of human identity.</p>
<p>My main sticking points are philosophical and biblical.  It seems to me that Aquinas&#8217; view actually takes up philosophical categories in a way that enables him to strike the biblical balance well: affirming an intermediate state apart from the body, but seeing this as a diminished state of existence, a naked seed of a person, better in some respects than the present life, but also falling far short of resurrected, embodied glory.</p>
<p>On the whole I find the difficulties remaining with such a Thomistic approach more palatable and less philosophically problematic than the new set of problems generated by Corcoran&#8217;s approach &#8212; though, I&#8217;d also suggest that Corcoran&#8217;s view is fundamentally Thomist in character, maintaining a distinction between a person and her body that amounts to a distinction between form and matter, recognizing &#8220;form&#8221; as dynamic, relational, and goal-directed.</p>
<p>Still, Corcoran provides a plausible alternative way of thinking about the contours of such a distinction, in connection with the human person.  Whether or not one agrees with his account in the end, it&#8217;s an account that helpfully forces one sharpen one&#8217;s own viewpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Traphagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Traphagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking like this will become increasingly necessary as neuroscience increasingly uncovers just how inseparable mind and personality are from our material bodies.</description>
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